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Hel-loooooooo! This week we're discussing the first post-hiatus episode, and it involves a wedding. Always a crowd pleaser, right? And the ratings even seemed to agree!

We're also mainly discussing Shirley this week. This episode presents two milestones in Shirley's life, and it's a good opportunity for us to go back to how we knew her then and now.


3. 11 — Urban Matrimony and the Sandwich Arts
Character development: Shirley
Is it just me, or were there better Shirley stories this season? In our discussion of Shirley's character evolution, we can refer to these episodes (fair warning, there are a lot): 1.04, 1.07, 1.12, 1.18, 2.05, 2.10, 2.12, 2.16, 2.18, 3.04, 3.07, 3.09, 3.13-3.14, 3.22. Or bring up your own favorite Shirley moments below.

  • What is the significance of the events of this episode given what Shirley has gone through in the last three years?
  • How would you describe Shirley's character arc during this season, and the series in general? Was there a case that you felt Shirley was acting in contrast to your impression of her personality?
  • What is your favorite of Shirley's character quirks, and why? Do you think any of her defining characteristics have been over- or under-emphasized?

Character study:
  • How did your perception of Andre change from when we first found out about him in Season 1, to when we met him in Season 2, and with the role he now plays in Shirley's life?
  • What are your thoughts about Jeff and Britta's attitude on marriage?
  • Do you believe that the de-whimsified Troy and Abed were real aspects of their personalities?

Other questions:
  • Favorite line and scene?
  • Anything else you'd like to discuss?

Extra credits:
Production Code: 312
Directed by: Kyle Newacheck
Written by: Vera Santamaria

Character Evolution: 3.08 Documentary Filmmaking: Redux | 3.11 Urban Matrimony and the Sandwich Arts | 3.21 The First Chang Dynasty

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crittab
Jun. 27th, 2012 12:58 am (UTC)
Character development: Shirley

What is the significance of the events of this episode given what Shirley has gone through in the last three years?


The tide is finally turning for Shirley. When we met her she was at her lowest, with her family recently broken up and no friends to speak of. Now she has supportive friends, and her family is back together.

How would you describe Shirley's character arc during this season, and the series in general? Was there a case that you felt Shirley was acting in contrast to your impression of her personality?

During season 3 we finally got to see Shirley's teeth a little. We got to see her actually making moves to achieve her goals of having a family and a business, and fighting for those rights. She also emerged as more of a power player among her friends, finally having an important slot in Jeff's life.

What is your favorite of Shirley's character quirks, and why? Do you think any of her defining characteristics have been over- or under-emphasized?

My favourite Shirley quirk is her barely-veiled anger. It both cracks me up and shows that there's a lot more at work than meets the eye with that character.

Unfortunately, the quirk that's been over-emphasized to Shirley's detriment is her over-the-top version of Christianity, which I would consider to be an insult to all reasonable Christians.

Character study:

How did your perception of Andre change from when we first found out about him in Season 1, to when we met him in Season 2, and with the role he now plays in Shirley's life?


My perception of Andre hasn't changed. He's a cheater and a liar, and I believe if this was the real world he still would be. I almost *want* him to do something awful just so we can see Shirley reclaim her independence and finally kick that jackass to the curb. As adorable as Malcolm Jamal Warner is, I just have no patience for characters like his.

And can I just rant for a second about how every single time Andre is in an episode, he gives some sort of 'be better' speech to Jeff? Seriously, his first episode he gave a speech about the love of a good woman, his second he gave a speech to Shirley AND Jeff about forgiveness and being a better person, and in his third episode he gave a speech to Jeff about the importance of marriage. As far as I'm concerned, that guy has no business talking on any of those points, and Jeff is already head and shoulders above him in terms of 'good personness'.

And let's not even get into all of the times he's attempted to pass of break-up/cheating blame on Shirley. Oh, she was always trying too hard to make things good? Poor baby, it must have been really tough to be married to a woman who loved you and took care of your family. Oh, she didn't support your business? Gee, couldn't have been because you were trying to support a family by selling outdated electronics. Good grief. And then in this episode he basically tells her to get back in the kitchen where she belongs (albeit in a *slightly* less misogynistic way).

*Heavy sigh*.

What are your thoughts about Jeff and Britta's attitude on marriage?

I understand Jeff's views based on his parents. I want to know more about Britta's life so I can understand where she's coming from beyond her confused version of feminism (which is not real feminism, btw). I don't agree with them, but I can see Jeff's perspective. It would be hard to believe in something that you'd witnessed being so thoroughly obliterated as a child.

Do you believe that the de-whimsified Troy and Abed were real aspects of their personalities?

No, I just think they were hilarious!

Other questions:

Favorite line and scene?


The scene between Jeff and Annie where she told him to look into his heart was my favourite 'shipper' scene. My favourite general scene was Britta getting drunk and saying things like "I'm going to make some man very happy someday."

Favourite line is tough, because there were some really funny ones in this episode... if I had to choose, I'd probably go with "Colour me lavender! Lavender means impressed."

Anything else you'd like to discuss?

You mean other than Andre being a cheating, lying poopface? How about the Lindbergh Lean and how awesome it was?
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